Tobirama was a good Hokage

Kimimaro Kaguya
 Post subject: Re: Which Hokage do you like the most?
Posted: 08.01.2014, 21:35 
Mizukage

Registered: 01.09.2011, 20:47
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Tsunade is still missing.

Voted for Hashirama because he is a legend and will never die. Even in a thousand years, his children will continue to honor him and bloom in the sunbeam, the mokuton trees. He lives endlessly. I also like to imagine that in the real trees, the spirit of Hashirama is. That may not be true, but belief counts!

Minato disappointed when it went yellow skid mark 2.0. It generally seems empty, as if the author doesn't feel like going into great detail any more.
Tobirama is a Uchiha killer and violence is no solution.
Hiruzen did nothing against the massacre, he is also very weak, which makes him uninteresting as long as this person cannot shine through looks.
Danzo the victim died and lived with tears in his eyes.
Tsunade is okay.


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 Post subject: Re: Which Hokage do you like the most?
Posted: 08.01.2014, 21:38 
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Clearly Tobirama. His intelligence and foresight are unparalleled. Not only did he invent numerous powerful jutsus such as Edo Tensei, Kagebunshin and Hiraishin, no, he was also much more politically gifted than his brother and was the only one who was able to correctly assess the Uchiha. Her murderous and vicious nature was no secret to him, so he cleverly arranged her downfall a long time ago. He isolated the evil from the rest of the village by forcing the roach to the police station and banishing them to their own neighborhood. Sooner or later, her sick character would lead to a rebellion, which would undoubtedly be put down by a successor. This is the ethically correct way to get rid of mankind's greatest danger. Just a genius.

Not to mention his legendary Suiton: O


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Kimimaro Kaguya
 Post subject: Re: Which Hokage do you like the most?
Posted: 08.01.2014, 21:45 
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Take off the Senjus' halo and see through their facade!

You have seen what Tobirama's behavior led to. He just ran away from the problems, not a particularly exemplary performance, but his Hirashin is wonderfully suitable for this, haha ​​.. He also did everything but cleverly orchestrate the successor. Ultimately, one Uchiha saved all lives. This clan is known for its empathy, that's why Itachi made the only right decision and he only had to make it because Tobirama violated the Uchiha - racism. So all the crap grew on him. If it were a different clan, such as Kaguya, which were known for their belligerence, there would have been a massacre that the "good guys" would have won, but with losses on their side. Hail Itachi for preventing that.


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Otaku
 Post subject: Re: Which Hokage do you like the most?
Posted: 08.01.2014, 21:52 
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Registered: 27.01.2013, 18:50
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KimimaroKaguya wrote:
Take off the Senjus' halo and see through their facade!

You have seen what Tobirama's behavior led to. He just ran away from the problems, not a particularly exemplary performance, but his hirashin is wonderfully suited to it

Tobirama and run away? He took care of everything as a precaution and if Hashirama hadn't been too soft, Tobirama would have prevented the current events if he had given Madara the coup de grace. In other words, not a Madara invasion that resulted in Uchiha surveillance. If anyone is to blame it is Hashirama and Madara. Tobirama did his job well, the focus of two extremists.


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Rigardo
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Posted: 08.01.2014, 21:56 
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Hiruzen or also known as the professor and god of shinobi.
He always tried to protect the village and had to make a difficult decision about the Uchihas.
He had the longest tenure and was the master of the 3 Legendary Sannins.
A great character just the measure of all things in Part 1,
until Kishi has completely lost his way and totally hyped the first Hokage, although Hiruzen the god of Shinobi wiped the floor with the 1st and 2nd.


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 Post subject: Re: Which Hokage do you like the most?
Posted: 08.01.2014, 22:01 
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Registered: 30.08.2012, 11:33
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KimimaroKaguya wrote:
Take off the Senjus' halo and see through their facade!

You have seen what Tobirama is capable of. He flashes war criminals with Mangekyou Sharingan who were on par with Madara Uchiha like nothing.

Doesn't Tobirama deserve its "halo" status for this particular action?

KimimaroKaguya wrote:
Ultimately, one Uchiha saved all lives.

If I remember correctly, this is not entirely true, because the Uchiha clan would have been wiped out one way or another. Danzou said either you do it and can save your brother, or we will do it and all will die.
But who knows how the whole thing would have turned out, so you may be right ^^

No, you’re right. Without Shisui and Itachi Uchiha, the Uchiha coup would probably never have succeeded and the clan would have been wiped out. At least there were no civilian casualties through Danzos.

KimimaroKaguya wrote:
Yep, Danzo would have experienced its blue miracle, at the latest when Itachi Izanami had unpacked. Katon also >> futon.

Because Izanami would have worked against a danzo who was well aware of his place.

KimimaroKaguya wrote:
Well, that's not how it happened. You have to adapt your attitude to the circumstances and I don't see this ability in Tobirama. It seems more as if he was always just dulling it.

Simply wrong. In his stories about Kagami, he showed that he doesn't dully hates all Uchiha.


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Kimimaro Kaguya
 Post subject: Re: Which Hokage do you like the most?
Posted: 08.01.2014, 22:13 
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Every Nazi also has an Ali as a friend. Man guys, you couldn't tell me that you think Tobirama's actions are good. Just because he doesn't like some, he kills them instead of changing himself. That doesn't even mean his brother is good.

Did I mean Izanami versus Izanagi, or did he not have a Sharingan back then? Itachi would have soloed everyone if he were willing to defend himself and Sasuke.

War criminal? You call Izuna a war criminal? I'll show you what "war criminal" really means.


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Villain elf
 Post subject: Re: Which Hokage do you like the most?
Posted: 08.01.2014, 22:17 
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KimimaroKaguya wrote:
Every Nazi also has an Ali as a friend. Man guys, you couldn't tell me that you think Tobirama's actions are good. Just because he doesn't like some, he kills them instead of changing himself. That doesn't even mean his brother is good.

Tobirama recognized many of the village's clans as a threat, not just the Uchiha. As a clan head you should decide for the benefit of the majority. He did this.

KimimaroKaguya wrote:
Did I mean Izanami versus Izanagi, or did he not have a Sharingan back then? Itachi would have soloed everyone if he were willing to defend himself and Sasuke.

Izanami is not automatically a counterattack against every Izanagi user, Kimi. You should read the technique again carefully. By the way, he didn't have a Sharingan back then, as he mentioned in the fight against Sasuke that he got his Sharingan thanks to Itachi.

KimimaroKaguya wrote:
War criminal? You call Izuna a war criminal? I'll show you what "war criminal" really means.

Weren't the Uchiha the ones who 5th murdered a child?


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Kimimaro Kaguya
 Post subject: Re: Which Hokage do you like the most?
Posted: 08.01.2014, 22:26 
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